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Angelica the discussion started on January 22nd, 2003 (10:06 pm) with the following post:
be surprised by a falling brick?
Hermann Penker replied on 01/23/03 (1:47 PM):
I want to be able to fully consciously experience the transition to the other side of life. Of course, I am a little apprehensive about the fact that a serious illness as a cause of death can also be associated with great pain. As an example I have in mind a simple man who died after a hard working life (bricklayer) from cancer possibly caused by his cigarette smoking. In full awareness of the nearness of death, he first made his calculations with God, then he had his relatives and friends fetched in turn to say goodbye. He also invited people with whom his relationship was not the best, and spoke to them. After saying goodbye to the last one, he asked his wife to make another coffee. After he had had a drink, he took his wife by the hand and passed away very calmly. Such a gentle death, in my opinion, was only possible because he had drawn the sum of his life, because nothing in his life was left unfinished.
Barbara answered on 01/23/03 (3:23 pm):
Felix answered on 01/24/03 (00:16):
To die in dignity, as Hermann described it, is also my wish. Or maybe a quick transition ... as I've seen it before ... falling asleep peacefully ... and not waking up again.
Marianne answered on 01/27/03 (8:22 pm):
I am currently reading (again) "Malte Laurids Brigge" by Rilke. There is also a lot to read about the dignity and dignity of death. Rilke says that everyone has their own death.
Johanna answered on 01/27/03 (8:36 pm):
When my husband asked his family doctor in my presence whether he still had a chance (cancer), this doctor did not answer. This was the hardest thing for me to later give an honest answer to my husband's question. But in the end I didn't take away any chance of hope, but gave him the opportunity to take stock - to "come to terms" with himself and his life. My husband passed away very peacefully and calmly in my arms (he was at home) and if I could choose, then I would wish for myself to die just like that - peacefully, with dignity.
Angelica answered on 01/28/03 (10:27):
There is so much talk of "dignity" and sometimes I wonder whose dignity is it? Do we want to die "dignified" so that it is dignified for our bereaved? As a bereaved person, do you want everything to be "dignified" that becomes visible from the death of a person? Nobody could tell us, but I dare to say that the dying feel anything but dignified - and when they lie there, the lower jaw folded down, the muscles relaxed and everything under them again and emptied - the few dead, those who die at home, the few who are washed again before they get into the coffin, the conversations and their contents of the undertaker's helpers, which touch the dead one last time ... dignified? But the funeral is dignified again ...
mechtild replied on 01/29/03 (10:17 PM):
As one has lived one will also die. dign what is that? I think it's different for everyone. If you live consciously, you will prepare to die and your loved ones will know what to do and then you will become dignified. I do not wish for myself, but also for my relatives, to have to suffer long. If life has been good, it is not difficult to walk either. The brick is surely more beautiful for those who die than if it takes so long. The relatives are a bit shocked at the beginning, but then certainly also very happy.
Marianne answered on 02/01/03 (14:23):
In Malte Laurids Brigge, Rilke naturally writes a lot in poetic form in the same direction in which Johanna and Mechthild also argue.
Nuxel answered on 02/01/03 (14:54):
Marianne answered on 02/01/03 (17:19):
Medea. answered on 02/01/03 (19:16):
I painfully remember the death of an acquaintance who neither wanted nor could die. She had advanced stage colon and stomach cancer, it was hopeless and yet all she wanted was to live.
Simaja answered on 02/28/03 (11:04 am):
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Medea. answered on 02/28/03 (17:23):
Nuxel replied on 03/01/03 (3:11 pm):
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