What should I study before computer physics

Computational Physics / CES / Technomathematics

Fresh Prince of Physics  📅 02.08.2016 11:59:08
Computational Physics / CES / Technomathematics
Hello everybody,

Since my bachelor's degree in physics is slowly coming to an end, I am thinking about how to continue. A Master in
I don't want to do physics but rather more practice-related.

Since I program that and the general work on the computer a lot
Fun, I am looking for a degree of both
physical aspects as well as work on the computer connects.
In addition, the course should offer a certain incentive for future employers.

After doing my own research, I went to the Computational Engineering course
Science ". The degree seems to be quite new and still
accordingly, there are not many reports in the
How is this course to be assessed?

I've also read about computer physics and computational physics a number of times.
Unfortunately I have not yet found anything specific where this is
Degree program is offered and what the exact content is. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computerphysik

Another option that I find exciting is the course
Technomathematics. This seems to cover the areas of physics, mathematics and the
Also combine the areas of simulation and programming.

Has gained experience on the courses mentioned and could you also post your opinion?

I am also happy to accept alternative suggestions that fall into this area.

Thanks in advance.
xJana  📅 02.08.2016 19:50:18
Re: Computational Physics / CES / Technomathematics
I want to do exactly that too How nice not to be alone. Whereby the numerics drive me in that direction and the programming scares me off a little.

Regarding Computational Physics, I can only tell you that this is a lecture for me at the university. As a course of study, I haven't seen it myself yet.
I think technical mathematics is at least too mathematical for me (at least that makes me doubt business mathematics). For me at the university, however, the specializations are more in mechanical engineering, civil engineering, computer science, etc. (as far as I know).

Have you already dealt with the individual specializations at the respective universities? I still watch a lot and don't know where exactly I want to go, because I also really like medical physics. But in Stuttgart (?) There is a specialization in medical technology, which would also be an option for me.
xJana  📅 28.09.2016 20:54:08
Re: Computational Physics / CES / Technomathematics
I'm sorry to see this so late.

As I understand it, you need work experience. From my point of view, this is a little trickier for physicists to achieve than for classical engineers.

In Aachen, when the time comes, I would rather opt for Simulation Science. But even that is not really on my favorites list anymore.

May I ask how you made up your mind or what you are doing now?
Fresh Prince of Physics  📅 29.09.2016 10:19:21
Re: Computational Physics / CES / Technomathematics
From xJana I'm sorry to see this so late.

As I understand it, you need work experience. From my point of view, this is a little trickier for physicists to achieve than for classical engineers.

In Aachen, when the time comes, I would rather opt for Simulation Science. But even that is not really on my favorites list anymore.

May I ask how you made up your mind or what are you going to do now?
Hello xJana, I am currently still enrolled in the BA in Physics and will hopefully finish my studies by next semester at the latest. I would like to go in the direction of computer science because I cannot imagine a future in research at the university.
I took mathematics as a minor and collected a few certificates there. I asked about the master’s degree in computer science at my university and this would only be possible with conditions.
At the moment I am completely at a loss in which direction I should go after my BA in physics. I was already thinking of doing a BA in Computer Science with a minor in Mathematics. Since I could probably get 50-60CP counted.
The master’s degree in CES is also out of the question for me at the moment.

How is it with you?

Best wishes! :-)
xJana  📅 29.09.2016 20:12:02
Re: Computational Physics / CES / Technomathematics
Oh well, then you still have a "little" time, and the applications will start soon, right?

I'm now in the 5th semester, but I will need at least one longer, but will take the time and then add another one. Because most courses only start in winter. But I would like to use the time to maybe attend a few more IT modules or something and thus maybe to circumnavigate one or the other requirements

I have a minor in computer science, but that was just a module and a kind of data structures, algorithms and programming 1. I can basically do these classic basic programming tasks and I am very grateful for them. But it was quite difficult for me with the lecture (but it was also due to the circumstances, because I'm definitely interested).
This semester, in addition to higher mathematics, I had an introduction to numerics and that was a lot of fun, which is why I first came to CES. I also looked at materials science in Bochum, for example, where you can focus on simulations.

What I mainly know so far is that a pure Masters in Physics is unlikely to make me happy. Above all, the laboratory internships are the horror. I just don't have any fun with it. Most likely, I could only imagine medical physics and mathematical physics at the moment.

At the moment I can only imagine research to a limited extent. However, I would still like to keep this open. But I have in the back of my mind that you should also be able to show something for the economy. Of course, physics is not useless, but you have to get started first and before that I just feel a little nervous.
That's why I think so far that CES sounds like a good middle ground to me. Now the only question for me is which specialization I would like to choose.

In Wuppertal, for example, there is Financial Mathematics, which appeals to me because I currently have economics as an elective. However, I lack the variety there that I would have at other universities. In Rostock I could still do a little bit of climate research. Maybe it's not great for the job market, but that's where I still learn to simulate. Whether it's the ocean or anything else.

In the meantime, I had also thought of a bachelor's degree in computer science, but that doesn't appeal to me either. There are some with me who also study computer science on the side. Can't you already incorporate some modules from the Bachelor of Computer Science into your timetable? So maybe you could qualify for a particular master’s degree in that direction.

I think you really have to go through all the university pages and look at one course at a time. That's how I did it. I first took a close look at the physics master's "everywhere" to get a feel for what appeals to me and what doesn't.
Fresh Prince of Physics  📅 29.09.2016 21:58:39
Re: Computational Physics / CES / Technomathematics
Hello Jana, so far I have only looked around the website of the University of Aachen. It is stated there:

Required basic knowledge:
  • Engineering basics of mechanical engineering 25 CP
  • Mathematical and natural science basics 37 CP
  • Basics of Computer Science 26 CP
  • Basics of simulation technology 15 CP
  • Total from the above areas 130 CP
- Sufficient knowledge of German, e.g. DSH level 2
- twelve weeks internship
- Sufficient knowledge of English is recommended

In general, the course is exciting, but I don't even half of the required basic knowledge that I have listed.
Alternatively, a bachelor's or master's degree in an engineering subject could be interesting, be it mechanical engineering or electrical engineering. The master's would probably only be possible under conditions where you can then say that you are doing a bachelor's degree directly.

At the moment the situation is very tricky because I also don't want to do a master's in physics because I don't enjoy the internships either and I have considerable doubts whether my future employer is completely in agreement with the unworldly study content in physics.
That may not necessarily be in the interests of my future employer, which is why this is another reason for me not to do a master's in physics. To be honest, I miss the practical, something concrete where you can also say afterwards: I can do something!
I think you will understand what I mean.

Best wishes :-)
Eng12w  📅 29.09.2016 22:01:08
Re: Computational Physics / CES / Technomathematics
Doing a bachelor's degree again takes too much time. Also, forget about research / doctorate. In Germany, research is particularly bad, there are only temporary jobs and the salaries are ridiculously low. You can only get into this "great" research with a doctorate, i.e. waste more time. In physics there are often only 50% jobs. That means earning little money for 3-4 years and so little that with my current part-time job I earn more than I do a doctorate. And in industry / business, a doctorate has more disadvantages. So if you are k.b more into pure physics, then do the master’s degree in info / electrical engineering etc. Of course, you have to repeat the requirements, but it’s better to live with a low salary for years.

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xJana  📅 03.10.2016 13:29:04
Re: Computational Physics / CES / Technomathematics
I also see it a bit like Eng12w. Doing a new bachelor's degree really takes a lot of time and then you're just as advanced as you are now. Then I'd rather opt for a Master's with additional requirements. What is a year in relation to three years?

Of course I can understand that physics is sometimes a little unworldly. I think it also depends on the focus With us you can, among other things, take some computer science, electronics and medical physics modules, so that all of this is no longer so unworldly.
Another problem, I think, is that we as physicists know that we can use that, we already know something. Only most of them don't see the connection to it. Because often it is quite special ...