Is handmade jewelry worth its price

Hematite necklace overpriced?

April 13, 2015 - 10:07 am

 · #1
Hello dear Forumgsgemeinde, I'm new here & relatively desperate.
About 2 weeks ago I had a gemstone necklace made from hematite, with a beautiful gold clasp (handmade).
I paid € 450 for the chain and am currently browsing the internet and see that hematite is as good as worthless ?! Chains like mine are available online for around 30 € (without gold clasp). Are there differences in quality that would justify my price? Otherwise I will contact the lady from whom I bought the necklace again.

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April 13, 2015 - 10:13 am

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Quote written by DieGästin
a beautiful gold clasp (handmade)

that should be the price-determining factor in the chain
And the threading alone can cost more in this country than a complete chain including the stones but threaded in China
as long as there is no more information (size, style, photo, gold type) about the lock, you can't say anything
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April 13, 2015 - 10:38 am

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And then it also depends on whether it is actually hematite or reconstructed hematite, which is sometimes also on the market with the trade name Hematine (Hematine). Since many do not know the difference (and therefore incorrectly or incorrectly declare it), one often reads the prices from on the Internet Hematin and not the one from Hematite.

Reconstructed hematite is significantly cheaper than untreated hematite.
Mainly new goods, strand goods (ball chains) coming from Asia have been reconstructed.

April 13, 2015 - 10:49 am

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In my case, the hematite is held in the shape of a lens. I'm going to do the "magnet test" tonight. Thank you for your quick answers!
Will I post a photo tonight if that helps?
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April 13, 2015 - 12:26 pm

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Real (untreated) hematite is only slightly magnetic; reconstructed hematite is strongly magnetic.

Whether cabochon, plates, spheres, lenses, rondels, cylinder-cylinder form or the like; The rule is usually: new goods (inexpensive) reconstructed, old goods (expensive) untreated.

Photo only helps if the clasp is shown with size information and, if necessary, alloy stamp (stamp on clasp or eyelet or information on the invoice).

April 13, 2015 - 12:39 pm

 · #6
Before the goldsmith accepted the order, everything was discussed in detail with you (as I know it), it should be hematite lenses, a handmade gold clasp, the length of the chain, etc., and of course what price you can expect with this individually designed chain. A comparison with the chains offered on eBay is clearly ruled out.

A completely normal business.
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April 13, 2015 - 1:22 pm

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Where does the magnet test come from all at once?

I have just held a neodymium magnet to a crystallized hematite stage - the result is slightly magnetic, then to a hematin chain - the result is also slightly magnetic, just like the original hematite chain.

Maybe there are some batches that show different properties, but I couldn't see any difference in any of my pieces.

The problem of hematin and the differentiation from hematite has often been a topic here and has also preoccupied me, e.g. on page 2 of this thread (article from August 12, 2013)

http://www.goettgen.de/schmuck-foren/ftopic15421-15.html

Lis

April 13, 2015 - 1:23 pm

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Hi Michael,

you are right, no question at all!

I'm not a gemstone connoisseur and have chosen hematite from the many pieces of jewelry. The price was also okay for me, as I assumed that the gemstones also have this value (just my mistake not to inform me beforehand!). For me it's not about whether I can withdraw from the "contract", the train has left anyway. However, my family has already had a lot of gemstone jewelry made or bought there: I just want to know for myself whether the lady ripped me off or not - that would have done my future purchases from her. It was also clear that I couldn't find EXACTLY my chain on the Internet, as it is a one-off. However, the price difference (€ 30 to € 450) is so significant that I wanted to get an expert opinion about it.
It's not about the fact that I found my chain on Ebay for 20 € cheaper ...
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April 13, 2015 - 1:53 pm

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As Tilo wrote, you can't judge anything without a photo of the necklace. It is also important whether real hematite or hematin see link above from Bergristall and what size it is. Gold clasp speaks for a realistic price. What if there are intermediate parts? So don't worry, the cheap network offers are probably really not suitable as a benchmark. Still, it's all guesswork without a photo ...
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April 14, 2015 - 10:05 am

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What exactly was the € 450 paid for? Only for the chain, or for the chain with the clasp?
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April 14, 2015 - 10:34 am

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April 14, 2015 - 10:48 a.m.

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Quote written by DieGästin

Will I post a photo tonight if that helps?

yes, that would have helped
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April 14, 2015 - 1:20 pm

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You can't compare a simple hematite or hematite chain (with or without a carabiner or spring ring) with one with a handmade gold lock?
As Tilo wrote above:
that should be the price-determining factor in the chain


You can have a breakdown of how much of the final amount is due to the chain and how much is due to the lock.
But here, too, the retail price of the chain can justifiably be higher than the internet price due to higher fixed costs, you could inspect it directly and did not have to buy the pig in a poke and also e.g. no postage costs - possibly also for return if you did not like it.
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April 14, 2015 - 2:59 pm

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All right, thanks for your help!
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April 14th, 2015 - 5:19 pm

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In the end, the lock cost € 450 and because the family are good customers, the chain didn't cost anything. Wouldn't it be a variant: bounce:
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