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  1. Opinion on FFXIII

    Author: funny amphibian 17.03.10 - 16:25

    What's the game like now? The game tests are sometimes mixed. What is the opinion of the players who bought FFXIII (360 & PS3)? Is it worth? I'm still quite undecided about that.

    PS: I am not a PS3 fan, but such a crash, as long as you can continue playing afterwards, is definitely not worth news. My XBox 360 also got hung up at Mass Effect once. There was no news about it either.

  2. Re: opinion on FFXIII

    Author: Your mother 17.03.10 - 16:45

    I wouldn't recommend it. I was really looking forward to it, played about 10 hours and have to say, * yawn *, I'm bored ... really rough. The levels are structured like tubes, run from A to B and between them there is a cut scene as a reward. The story is kind of confused, in the good old FF manner, very complex and impressive, but somehow I don't understand it. Last but not least, the combat system was totally screwed up. Maybe someone likes it but I would rather have the old system back ...
    If you are looking for something with depth I would recommend Heavy Rain ...

  3. Re: opinion on FFXIII

    Author: gdhgfh 17.03.10 - 16:55

    In my opinion the most underrated game in a long time ... but well, tastes are different.

  4. Re: opinion on FFXIII

    Author: 12345678 17.03.10 - 19:57

    funny lurch wrote:
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    > How is the game now? The game tests are partly there
    > mixed. What is the opinion of the players who join FFXIII (360 & PS3)
    > bought? Is it worth? I'm still quite undecided about that.
    >
    > PS: I'm not a PS3 fan, but it crashes as long as you go after it
    > can continue playing is really not worth any news. My XBox 360 has
    > Also once hung up at Mass Effect. There was no news either
    > about it.

    Wait for the Resonance of Fate. Maybe it will get better.

  5. Re: opinion on FFXIII

    Author: nepumuk 17.03.10 - 20:11

    You don’t know what you’re missing.
    I'm a total fan of the good old JRPGs and played FFVII until I vomited and then took everything except FFXII with me.

    I have extra wg. FFIII bought a PS3 and was a bit disappointed at the beginning. Mainly because of the linear levels, the simple combat system where you can't lose and the lack of villages to explore.

    I am now at about 25 hours and I have to say my opinion has turned by almost 180 °.

    Final Fantasy XIII is imho the best part of the series after FFVII.
    The combat system is becoming more and more fun for me, and I'd even go so far as to say it's the best combat system in the series.
    It's still fun, you have to develop a strategy for a lot of opponents and it's damn fast.

    When I think back to FFVII, I have for the most part dispensed with tactics, rather leveled a little more and then only pressed the X key, as that did the most damage.

    Anyway, I would recommend just keep playing, you will not be disappointed. Anyway, I can't put it down at the moment.

  6. Re: opinion on FFXIII

    Author: That is the worst 17.03.10 - 22:09

    Mmm, I've now played 10h and unfortunately I have to say that FF13 is the worst part so far. The story is gruesome, is told badly (half of it I understood only after reading the data log, made very stupid) the beasts are really terrible (why the hell are they transforming themselves into vehicles * rolleyes *) the characters move me for the most part as well.
    All in all (the combat system left out completely) an absolute disappointment. Fortunately, I only borrowed it. My money is too good for that.

  7. Re: opinion on FFXIII

    Author: ThumbsUp 18.03.10 - 00:00

    Is actually like any other FF before:
    "Once again clearly changed from the predecessor."

    So exactly what was to be expected, optically absolutely flawless.
    And just as the constant change in every part has probably made the series so far-reaching in the first place,
    Some customers just feel too surprised.
    In return, a couple of new friends are added.

    In any case, a very good game that you just like any of the
    other parts insanely great or not that exciting
    can experience, according to the individual expectations.

    In any case, I was very happy about the current version,
    in the battles micromanagement has given way to macro management, something from all the other recent square games and still FF in there.
    The extensive renunciation of "non-linear" dungeon levels saves the FedEx questing that was often required in the past.
    But let's be honest: "not linear"?
    We all ran to the very last box in the last branch and did not make use of the option of the linear course of the game along the ideal line so as not to miss the very last dungeon pixel.
    There is now no longer any danger of accidentally going straight to the exit to the race if you haven't packed everything yet. : P

  8. Re: opinion on FFXIII

    Author: me 18.03.10 - 02:32

    nepumuk wrote:
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    > Final Fantasy XIII is imho the best part of the series after FFVII.

    Seriously, you think that this FF7 emo game is the best part ?!
    6 was way better.

  9. Re: opinion on FFXIII

    Author: For real 18.03.10 - 06:40

    I have now completed 54 ingame hours and am getting more and more enthusiastic.
    The beginning:
    It's great because it looks so great even after you've seen better graphics on the PC. You are taken by the hand and introduced to the game operation. This introduction can take several hours, even if it sometimes doesn't look like an introduction :-)

    After the beginning:
    You get more freedom in your choice of direction. It may not surprise anyone that although there is only one direction leading to the next part of the story, it is definitely fun to look at the landscape on Pulse after 30 hours at the latest, if you take your time.

    Generally:
    A story is told and the player is invited to experience this story in a playful way. The content is once again very imaginative and one is always amazed how at first strange little things fit in well later. At the beginning everything is a bit confusing, but in the course of the game the story of each player character is revealed and there have been quite a few aha experiences for me so far, which I hope will increase as the game progresses.

    Who shouldn't play it:
    People who want an RPG where they want to create and play their own role. The characters, their backgrounds and skills are given, and so is the story. :-)
    Also people who have something against old video game techniques, who made their living from the fact that you first fail at certain things and then have to try to find out how you can get ahead.

    Who should play it:
    People who have nothing against elaborate cutscenes like to indulge in fanatasy and enjoy it.

    Conclusion:
    In the beginning it was very easy, but that increases to almost unplayable with certain opponents, whom I personally prefer to avoid :-)
    I definitely like the game a lot.
    You get a lot of games for your money and I almost think of this game as literature, like Heavy Rain, which I played before.

  10. Re: opinion on FFXIII

    Author: end of working day 18.03.10 - 07:41

    I think the game is pretty nice so far. But it's kind of disappointing for a Final Fantasy.
    Because it's more of an action adventure than an RPG.
    The Kompfsystem gets going after about 15 hours of play and is then even fun.

    But there is no character development.
    There are hardly any sidequests.
    There are very few NPCs that can be approached.
    You cannot influence history.
    The obligatory mini-game is missing (Tetramaster, Blitzball, Triple Traid, etc.)

    I'm a fan of the FFs with the open living game world. So when I was 12 I had a lot of fun. and found 10 or more mau.

    But if you think 9 and 10 are significantly better than 7, 8 and 12, you will certainly have a lot of fun at 13.

    But in my opinion it is neither a Japanese version of Hevy Rain nor a JRPG in the classic Sin. It's more like the Call of Duty version of Final Fantasy ...

  11. Re: opinion on FFXIII

    Author: mustard third 18.03.10 - 08:25

    I have now played about 20 hours and I have to say it is a very brilliant game. The rendering videos are the best I've seen on a console or PC so far. The story itself has a lot of humor and charm.
    It may be very linear at the beginning, but to be honest, it doesn't bother at all because it fits the story well.
    Anyone who thinks it's a bad game, in my opinion, has no idea. I play it on the PS3 and the change from videos to combat is implemented so smoothly that you hardly notice what is video and what is game.

  12. Re: opinion on FFXIII

    Author: end of working day 18.03.10 - 09:13

    mustard third wrote:
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    > I have now gambled for about 20 hours and I have to say it is a very brilliant one
    > Game. The rendering videos are the best I've had on a console so far
    > or PC saw. The story itself has a lot of humor and charm.
    > It may be very linear at the beginning, but to be honest, it is annoying
    > Not at all, because it goes well with the story.
    > Anyone who thinks it's a bad game has none in my opinion
    > Clue. I am playing it on the PS3 and switching from videos to combat is there
    > something of smooth implemented that you hardly notice what is now video and what
    > Game is.

    Just beautiful videos and top graphics don't make a good game!
    Anyone who claims such a thing has no idea about games!

    But I didn't say that it was a bad game. in and of itself it's quite nice. But I make a little more demands on a Final Fantasy than on any noname.

    And if I just want a good story with nice pictures, I'll buy a comic, magna or anime film and get away with more story cheaper!

    Hevy Rain showed how to make an interactive film.
    So a good game reduced to the story and the graphics!

    Final Fantasy has shown that JRPG has to be more than a game reduced to story and graphics!

    imo

  13. Re: opinion on FFXIII

    Author: Ogr 18.03.10 - 11:50

    DeiMudder wrote:
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    > I would not recommend it. I was really looking forward to it, about 10
    > Played for hours and have to say, * yawn *, I'm bored ... really rough.

    Wow .. 10 hours. Then you have the judgment about the game is based on an enormous fund of empirical values.

    > The levels are structured like tubes, run from A to B and between them there is a cut scene as a reward.

    And next, are you complaining that there are no in-game cities? In all honesty - who cares as long as the concept of the game is a whole. So far I have played all parts of Final Fantasy (including 11) and find it quite pleasant.

    > The story is kind of confused, though
    > in the good old FF manner, very complex and impressive but somehow
    > I don't understand this.

    Cheese for wine? Because you can't see through the story, does the game get minus points straight away? Complexity is what defines good and, above all, long-lasting games.

    > Last but not least was the combat system
    > totally screwed up. Maybe someone likes it but I would rather have the old one
    > System back ...

    Which old one? Final Fantasy I-III? Turn-based club with action bars? You have now - only it's much more intuitive and dynamic. So far I have been able to make friends with all FF combat systems and have to say that XIII is a successful mixture of all of the previous ones.

    > If you are looking for something with depth I would recommend Heavy Rain ...

    If you don't understand the story of FFXIII, you'd better use Tetris.

  14. Re: opinion on FFXIII

    Author: Seventeen 18.03.10 - 12:42

    I played all FF parts, except FFXI, I started with VII. I played the old parts later. With many parts there were technical things that annoyed me.

    -At 8 the calls went extremely on the pointer.
    -At 10 the system with this board was kind of annoying. And this botch control for Blitzball.
    -With 2 it quickly increased what was often used.
    -At 12 and 10, everyone can do anything at some point.

    In terms of play, imho 5,7,9 were the most appealing. In the end it often comes down to "Antihero save the world" anyway, as long as it's done well, I like to put up with it. At 12, I didn't warm to the main character. At 10 I didn't like any character except for Auron and the cat (Kimaron ??). 5 had the best job system, 7 the best story and the best villain, and 9 the world I felt most comfortable in.

    The best Square games still remain Xenogears for the PS and Chronotrigger for the NES.

  15. Re: opinion on FFXIII

    Author: Hmmmmmmmm 18.03.10 - 13:08

    I'm a fan of the FF series. FF13 bought ... inserted ... it's the worst FF ever.

    Technically top, very nice CGIs, but as a game ... just mediocre. Gameplay even underneath. And the bad? The story is bad.

    The story, if you want to call it that, has to be followed with the Datalexi, because in every cut scene something comes up that beats Outcast's "Ulukai" by length.

    In terms of the whole concept, FF13 is even under FFX-2.

  16. Re: opinion on FFXIII

    Author: Naermon 18.03.10 - 13:34

    I can only recommend everyone to play the game until at least chapter 11 before they allow themselves to judge. Chapters 1 - 10 are actually a bit FF unlike and completely linear. But then it transforms into a real (and enormously good) FF.

    The only thing annoying about the combat system after a long period of familiarization is the fact that the two AI comrades-in-arms do not always do what I would consider sensible. Especially when it comes to buffing / debuffing. I would like to be able to define priorities. The same applies to the defensive sentinel role. There were good approaches in FF XII that could have been adopted. It's a shame but manageable.

    The fights don't get boring though (at least not after my 35 hours).

    The story, well there were better ones (FF VII is still unbeaten). Nevertheless, it is lavishly staged, even if it is not always conveyed credibly.

  17. Re: opinion on FFXIII

    Author: end of working day 18.03.10 - 13:41

    Ogr wrote:
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    > DeiMudder wrote:
    > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > -----
    >> I would not recommend it. I was really looking forward to it, about 10
    >> Played for hours and have to say, * yawn *, I'm bored ... right
    > rough.
    >
    > Wow .. 10 hours. Then you have judged the game based on yes
    > an enormous pool of empirical values.

    Some games are already played through after this time.
    How long do you have to play a game in order to find it bad?
    30 hours?
    >
    >> The levels are structured like tubes, run from A to B and between
    > Inside comes a cut scene as a reward.
    >
    > And next you complain that there are no in-game cities?
    > Honestly - who cares, as long as the concept of the game is a whole
    > educates. So far I have all (including 11) parts of Final Fantasy
    > played and find it quite pleasant.

    In itself, FF13 is quite consistent. But it could have been so much more: /
    >
    >> The story is kind of confused, though
    >> in the good old FF manner very complex and impressive but somehow
    >> I don't understand this.
    >
    > Cheese for wine? Because you can't see through the story, the game wins
    > directly minus points? Complexity makes good and, above all, entertaining for a long time
    > Play off.

    A story that is too confused doesn’t make a game any better.
    See e.g. Fahrenheit.
    But Ff13 is still to be endured. You can read everything little by little.
    >
    >> Last but not least was the combat system
    >> totally screwed up. Maybe someone likes it, but I would rather have that
    > old
    >> System back ...
    >
    > Which old one? Final Fantasy I-III? Turn-based club with
    > Action bar? Do you have now - only it is much more intuitive and
    > more dynamic. So far I have been able to make friends with all FF combat systems and
    > I have to say that at XIII there is a successful mixture of all previous
    > is.
    >
    >> If you are looking for something with depth I would recommend Heavy Rain ...
    >
    > If you don't understand the story of FFXIII, you'd better go to Tetris
    > fall back.

    I have to say, in the first 15 hours or so, the combat system puked me and I wanted to have the old one again.
    It's a bit stupid that the potential unfolds so very slowly.
    But it'll be fun later.

    But I still wonder why you can't control the characters. Where it does affect the distribution of the damage. And in 12 it worked without any problems.

  18. Re: opinion on FFXIII

    Author: end of working day 18.03.10 - 13:49

    Naermon wrote:
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    > I can only recommend everyone to play the game until at least chapter 11
    > before he allows himself to judge.Chapters 1 - 10 are actually a bit FF
    > unlike and completely linear. But then it transforms into a real one
    > (and enormously good) FF.
    >
    > The combat system is actually just annoying after a long period of getting used to it
    > the fact that the two AI colleagues do not necessarily always do that
    > which I would consider useful. Especially when it comes to buffing / debuffing
    > goes. I would like to be able to define priorities. Same goes for
    > the defensive Sentinel role. There were good approaches in FF XII
    > could have taken over. It's a shame but manageable.
    >
    > The fights don't get boring though (at least after my 35 hours
    > not).
    >
    > The story, well there were better ones (FF VII is still unbeaten).
    > Nevertheless, it is lavishly staged, even if not always credible
    > brought over.

    Sone certain linearity at the beginning and then the opening of the game world, I find it quite good and is also quite typical for FF. FFX and X-2 times excluded.
    But XIII simply overdid it.

    When does the tutorial end? Chapter 9 of 13?
    That could have been done really better. And somehow I find these beautiful landscapes in Cocoon a bit wasted because you walk through them once and never enter them again.
    Sone kind of disposable dung;)

    Typical throwaway society ...

  19. Re: opinion on FFXIII

    Author: funny amphibian 18.03.10 - 14:00

    I thank everyone for the informative opinions. Unfortunately, with my purchase decision I am back where I was before. Like the game tests, your opinions differ greatly. At first I won't buy FF13 blindly, but wait until it is finally available in our video library and then test it extensively. Basically, my "opinion poll" was a shot in the oven. Tastes are simply too different for everyone to hold their thumbs up jubilantly.

    Nevertheless, thank you for your opinions

  20. Re: opinion on FFXIII

    Author: M_kessel 19.03.10 - 06:29

    Well, my opinion, which I was able to form based on the reviews, is again crystal clear:

    "Stay away from FF XIII"

    If you get a one-way CRPG by chapter 9, the combat system only gets going slowly, and you only have fun after 20-30 hours of play, you can dump the game, the graphics ultimately don't tear anything out.

    If I want to play a game, it has to captivate me from the very first moment, otherwise it ends up on the pile "very nice" or "when I have time" and NEVER be touched again afterwards.

    The descriptions are enough for me to decide against the purchase, as the points that are decisive for me have been "rationalized away".

    As the producer himself said in an interview: "We couldn't adapt the story anymore, otherwise we would have to re-render a lot of sequences, and that was too expensive for us. We would have had to offer a lower quality for further additional sequences, so we had to just leave out many things and ideas "

    So the game was already flawed in terms of its concept. : D

    Yes, graphics are more important than anything these days. Even about fun, side quests, and additional content. ;)

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