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35 years: 1982-2017 - testimonials
The Krupp program and Stanford in Berlin made it possible for me to live, study and work in Berlin and Meißen a few years after reunification. Even though it was more than a decade ago, the memories of that time are still alive as the experiences in these places have left a strong mark on me.
The many people I met during this time, by and large, welcomed me with open arms. In Meißen, a small town in the heart of East Germany, there was hardly anything stranger then than the sight of a Korean-American boy like me walking down the winding medieval streets and babbling in a barely understandable German. Nevertheless, many people - young and old, working and unemployed, those with great expectations of German unification and those with fear of its consequences - took me on excursions, filled me with bratwurst and beer, invited me to their families and left share in their stories. I will always be grateful for that.
The teachings of that time were very memorable. What have I learned? That the influence of historical events - like the fall of the Iron Curtain - on the individual is colossal and complex and can never be grasped by a catchphrase or a catchy formula. That the average person "from the street" can tell an amazing life story and completely redefine what it means to be a lovable and generous person. And that so much of who we are and what we have achieved depends not only on the decisions we make, but also on the conditions under which we happen to be born (such as which side of the Iron Curtain we are on the world came).
My time at Stanford in Germany inspired, moved and made me more humble. I will never forget this time.
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Eric Yoon, Stanford in Berlin student 1992
Intern at the Europa-Zentrum Meißen e.V. in spring 1993
Patent attorney with Beyer, Weaver and Thomas, Oakland
From April 1986 I spent a few months as a painting student at the Berlin University of the Arts (now the University of the Arts). With a class of talented and intellectually demanding master students, I worked on my own pictures in Professor Hans-Jürgen (Hajo) Diehl's studio. The idea of being one of the first non-scientific interns in this particularly creative area came from Karen Kramer. I was simply in the right place at the right time: while I was working towards my degree in fine arts and modern theory and literature at Stanford in California, the Krupp internship program was just being expanded at Stanford in Berlin. I got to know Karen when she was teaching in the Structured Liberal Education program at Stanford as a visiting professor, and she probably sensed at the time that Berlin was the right place for me to broaden my knowledge of modern literature and art, and at the same time to learn new things demanding conditions to work practically in the studio. Learning how to communicate in German at the HdK and at the same time trying to get along with (or at least get along with) a group of ambitious and technically advanced art students was very exciting and sometimes just overwhelming.
In Berlin I broadened my intellectual horizons, I learned to speak a new language and to think in it - differently than ever before, I deepened my knowledge of modern culture and here I was given the opportunity to paint myself in a new and challenging environment to try. But my Berlin experience didn't just do that - it changed my path in life! In 1987, after graduating from Stanford, I decided to bring my humanities and art interests together in an art history doctorate with a focus on German Modernism. Since then, modern and current German art and literature and especially the culture of the twenties, sixties and seventies of the 20th century have been the focus of my academic work. I am aware that the fields of my competence as a scientist are related to topics that I first got to know through my studies in literature and art history with Karen Kramer, Franz Neckenig and Maria Biege at the Berlin Stanford Center and with Hajo Diehl at the HdK. Hajo Diehl is well known as a "critical" or "ugly realist". He was one of the founders of the "Grossgörschen 35 Section", an artist collective that insisted from the mid-sixties in its art and in public statements on its exhibitions that painting should still be a medium of sharp intellectual and politically informed criticism of the conditions modern life can be viewed. In it, Diehl and his generation referred to German painters of the twenties, especially verists like George Grosz and Otto Dix - artists who have become the subject of my art history research.
Every time I teach a course on the Weimar era, my memories of Berlin in the 1980s come to life, and I can't say how much I enjoy the fact that my relationship to my subject matter is based on something other than scientific interest is based. And although I didn't become a painter, the Krupp internship paved the way for what I do today, and in a way that no other program could have done - by promoting interests and skills that I already have possessed, and through the introduction to completely new, but in the end connected with the existing interests and abilities.
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Brigid Doherty, Stanford student in Berlin in the winter of 1986
Intern at the University of the Arts in the spring of 1986
Associate Professor of German and Art & Archeology, Princeton University
Netithorn Netty Praditsarn
I congratulate you on the 25th anniversary of the Krupp internship program! I am still grateful that the Krupp internship allowed an international Stanford student from Thailand like me to experience German work culture and work ethics at their best. The internship exceeded my wildest imagination - such an opportunity was the reason why I applied for the Stanford in Berlin program in the first place. The Krupp internship program gave me the opportunity to work for Professor Dr. Udo E. Simonis to work.
Professor Simonis' great teaching in environmental politics and economics led me to write my master's thesis on Thailand's shrimp industry a year later. Now that I have entered the diplomatic service at Thailand's Foreign Ministry, the work discipline and organizational skills that I learned from Professor Simonis have come in very handy. For example, I learned to write on the back of business cards the time and place they were received, as well as a brief description of the person concerned. That helped me remember the many diplomats I have now met around the world.
Professor Simonis also urged me to lead a balanced life. I had never met anyone before who was as hardworking and efficient as he was, and yet family was very important to him. "It's important to set clear priorities," he said to me one day. I only really understood this when my mother visited me in Berlin. During her visit, it was he who urged me to leave my job and spend time with my mother. He said, "Something more important is waiting for you at home." It was only then that I realized that you have to be clear about your priorities in life, not just in work.
I know that I can never thank the Krupp Foundation enough for its generosity. To show my appreciation, I always said to Germans and others: "Thanks to the Krupp program, I was lucky enough to work in Germany - and I learned a lot."
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Netithorn Netty Praditsarn, Stanford in Berlin-Student in autumn and winter of the academic year 1996-97
Intern at the Science Center Berlin in the spring of 1997
Second Secretary, Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Kingdom of Thailand
In the summer of 2002 I did an internship at the Federal Ministry for Development and Cooperation in the department for the coordination of German politics with the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. It was a great opportunity for me to pursue my interest in political and economic development and to learn something about an aspect of German politics that many people never get to know. Working for the German government at this point was a unique opportunity for an American student and I would not have been able to do that without the Krupp program. The time I spent at Stanford in Berlin and with the Krupp program encouraged me to return to Berlin on a Fulbright scholarship after completing my bachelor's degree. So I spent the following year pursuing my interest in European politics and transatlantic relations that had developed during my first stay in Germany. Many of the best memories and experiences of my student days are related to Stanford in Berlin and the internship program. These stays had a particular influence on my further academic decisions, both in my bachelor's degree and in my doctoral studies.
Andrea Everett (political science, economics), Stanford in Berlin student in spring 2002
Intern at the BMZ in Bonn in the summer of 2002
Currently PhD student in the Department of Politics, Princeton University
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The opportunity to really live and work within German culture gave me a life changing experience. My Krupp internship gave me an almost physical understanding of the German zeitgeist, especially because it took place not long after the fall of the Berlin Wall. The self-confidence that I gained in my ability to get along well in a foreign culture turned out to be very valuable for me personally and professionally. For example: Only yesterday I was able to introduce a German professor as the moderator of a technology conference (in German, which surprised him very much) and at the same time, by being able to discuss my experiences in Germany with him, I made an important contact. I will visit him in Stuttgart at the end of the month to include his latest research in one of my key projects. Without my experience with the Krupp internship program, I would not have been able to establish such a connection.
Tobin Cooley (engineering), Stanford in Berlin student 1990
Intern at the Center for Art and Media Technology (ZKM) in Karlsruhe in the winter of 1991
Founder and Chief Executive Officer of Listen Acoustics, Portland, Oregon.
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When I think about the influence of the Krupp internship program on my life and my career, it certainly seems to me to be a formative experience, an experience that meant that chance played a not insignificant role in my further life. An example of this is the fact that, as a young American who took part in the Krupp internship program thirty years ago, I could not imagine writing these lines in Tuttlingen, a city in which I have now been at home for three years.
Without a doubt, this cultural immersion prepared me well for my internship at the Hewlett-Packard headquarters in Bad Homburg in the Sales and Marketing department. The self-confidence gained in Berlin enabled me to strive for meaningful, practical work experience and to make a measurable contribution by applying what I had learned. My hosts at HP were extremely accommodating and let me take part in tasks that ranged from market research to software testing and technical service. I was very fortunate to be able to attend an important product launch and also to extend my internship. So I was able to stay at HP in the summer and support the launch of a product at the Alte Oper in Frankfurt.
After this extremely enriching experience with the Krupp internship, I returned to California to finish my studies. I stayed in close contact with the other Krupp interns, including German friends, and acted as a mentor for young Germans who came to Stanford for a summer quarter. Thanks to another lucky circumstance, after graduating as an engineer in 1987, I was able to successfully apply for the position of internship coordinator for the Krupp program in Berlin. I returned to Berlin with great gratitude to continue my Germany odyssey. During my time as internship coordinator, the internship program continued to grow and, in addition to the MINT subjects, now also included internship opportunities for students from the humanities and social sciences. During these two years we were able to place around 80 Stanford students in Krupp internships. This resulted in lasting friendships with Germans, with Stanford employees and of course with other Krupp interns.
For most of my professional career, there was a relationship with Germany. My first job in the United States was at Aesculap, a German company. Then I got involved in a start-up company founded by an American and two German colleagues. Our business was so successful that we were able to sell it to a company on the US Fortune list of the 100 best companies. Then I took a second degree and enrolled in a full-time MBA program at the University of California. It doesn't seem surprising that I completed part of my MBA at Heinrich Heine University in Düsseldorf. During this time I lived in Mülheim an der Ruhr with one of my German friends whom I had met during my Krupp internship at Hewlett-Packard.
The path that led to my current position at Aesculap in southern Germany was anything but obvious. I switched between mine several times homeland in California and the various places in Germany that I also mean At home called. Through these changes I have learned that the way of life of an "expat" is the result of very personal and difficult decisions, which are undoubtedly also worthwhile. One thing is certain: I would not enjoy the advantages of full integration into German society today if I had not had the experience of a Krupp intern at the time and the experience of all the years that followed in Germany.
My colleagues today tease me that I have become a real Swabian, which I consider a great compliment.At the moment this label applies and regardless of what the future holds, I know that I will always have a deep connection to Germany.
Todd Pope, Stanford in Berlin student 1984Top of page
Intern at Hewlett-Packard, Bad Homburg, in the first half of 1985
Vice President R&D - Design Capability & Service Innovation, B. Braun Aesculap AG, Tuttlingen
R. Judge Gregg
Two decades and two Stanford kills later, I still consider my stay at Stanford in Berlin and my participation in the Krupp internship program to be the most important work experience I was able to gain during my apprenticeship years. I came to Berlin as a budding environmental engineer and left the city firmly convinced that I would later work in the field of international environmental policy. I also left Berlin as a far more capable person.
The academic experience at Stanford in Berlin was unique. Here I had the opportunity to learn from one of the world's leading environmental researchers in a small course under optimal conditions, and since this lecturer was also a guest in Berlin, the intellectual exchange often took place outside the course. I enjoyed the subject matter he was teaching very much, but at the same time I realized that it was his political work in particular that interested me.
I stayed in Berlin for my Krupp internship, where I worked for the project management agency Biology, Energy, Ecology (PT BEO), an institution that was responsible for the administration of public funds in the field of environmental research. Working for PT BEO allowed me to better understand how funding for environmental research is organized in Germany compared to the US. My superiors asked me, among other things, to analyze the environmental policy drafts of the US administration under Clinton and Gore, which had just come into office at the time, in order to be able to then better assess the extent to which this would also have an impact on their work in Berlin. So on the one hand I got to know research projects in which PT BEO was involved, while on the other hand I investigated the laws of a new American government. This stark contrast made it clear to me the differences between the work of an environmental scientist and that of a political analyst, the latter struck me as far more interesting. I developed an understanding of the global characteristics of solutions in the environmental sector and of the fact that different countries have different approaches to this.
Living and working in Berlin prepared me - if not in an obvious way - to deal with unexpected professional challenges. This became clear when I had lunch with other former Krupp interns a few years after graduating. First, of course, we wallowed in memories of Haus Cramer, of our favorite snack serenades, of the best places for coffee with milk. Then finally someone said that the year had changed him in a very positive way. We compared our records and found that in fact we all came back from Berlin much more focused and that we brought with us the ability to deal better with unforeseen situations.
These newly acquired skills are, I believe, the result of those eight months in which I had many little things to master; Things that, in retrospect, might not have been so small after all. During my internship, I worked for the first time as a full-time employee in an office. I kept a paycheck in my hands. I paid rent. I paid bills. I went to doctors. I used public transport to cross all of Berlin every day. And of course there was the etiquette of the world of work. And all of this not in my mother tongue. In this respect, I am convinced that even today, when my work confronts me with a difficult situation, I partly draw on the self-confidence that I developed when I was confronted with the work demands in Berlin.
Back at Stanford, I changed my major from engineering to environmental science with a focus on political issues. I later went to law school. Since graduating from law school, I have worked for various non-governmental organizations in the environmental sector, as a resident lawyer, for the government in Washington D.C. and in the university sector. In each of these functions, I was able to devote at least part of my work to questions of international environmental policy that I was addressing at the time in Berlin.
Dr. R. Judge Gregg, Stanford in Berlin-Student 1992Top of page
Intern at the project management agency Biology, Energy, Ecology in Berlin in the winter of 1993
Litigation Attorney, Law and Policy Section, U.S. Department of Justice
My main subject was chemistry, and I was wondering whether I should go to a graduate school or become a medical doctor after completing my bachelor's degree. An internship in the medical field, I thought, would certainly help me with this decision. That is why I decided to take part in the internship program of the Alfried Krupp von Bohlen und Halbach Foundation. When my quarter of studies came to an end in June 1998, my request for a hospital internship in Bavaria had been approved and I was supposed to report to the Würzburg University Clinic. I was offered the nurses' home as accommodation.
During that summer, I accompanied doctors in their work, learned how to draw blood, watched operations and various medical treatments, and even witnessed the birth of some children. It was a once in a lifetime experience for me. After the Krupp summer internship, however, I was also able to say with conviction: A medical degree - that's not for me.
In the fall of 1998 I returned to Stanford to complete my postgraduate studies with a major in chemistry and a minor in German. I then began my PhD at the University of California at Irvine. However, I had previously fallen in love with the city of Berlin - and wanted to go back to the German capital. Fortunately, I learned that the German Academic Exchange Service was offering one-year scholarships for research stays at German universities. At the same time, the chemistry faculty at Freie Universität Berlin was in the process of setting up a bilingual master’s program. I applied for DAAD funding and received a research grant at the chemistry faculty of the Free University of Berlin. I postponed my PhD position at UC Irvine for a year and came back to Berlin in October 1999, where I stayed with the same host family that had taken me in a year earlier.
That year I took a course entitled "Quantum Chemistry on the Computer." I was excited about this topic, which would cast its spell on me for many years to come. In October 2000 I came to Berlin again, but this time without financial support, and started the bilingual master’s course at the chemistry faculty of the Free University of Berlin. After defending my master's thesis on quantum dynamics in January 2002, I immediately started my doctoral thesis and continued my research. In retrospect, it was very lucky for me that at that time I ate lunch every day in the cafeteria, because it was here that I met my future husband, a German civil engineer.
In October 2005 I helped defend my doctoral thesis in quantum dynamics magna cumlaude. From 2005 I continued my research and worked as a postdoc in both Berlin and Heidelberg. In 2009 the Volkswagen Foundation granted me funds for a research project in theoretical biophysics that I am doing at the Free University of Berlin. I still live in Berlin-Zehlendorf today and regularly visit my former host family, with whom I am close friends.
When I look back at the individual stages on my path so far, I feel great gratitude for the people and institutions that have supported my career over the past 17 years. I would like to thank Stanford and the Krupp Foundation for introducing me to working life in Germany and for laying the foundations, both professionally and personally, on which I was ultimately able to build my adult life.
Our oldest daughter attends the bilingual John F. Kennedy primary school in Berlin-Zehlendorf. She often sings German and English songs and when I listen to her, it feels like I am directly witnessing the emergence of a new generation of German-American solidarity. I am honored to say that all of this was only made possible through Stanford's overseas program, which I attended in the spring and summer of 1998.
Dr. Nadia Elghobashi-Meinhardt, Stanford student in Berlin in spring 1998Top of page
Intern at the Surgical University Clinic and Polyclinic, Würzburg, in the summer of 1998
Junior group leader, Institute for Chemistry and Biochemistry, Free University of Berlin
I completed my internship, financed by the Krupp Foundation, in 1998 in the banking, financial markets and regulation department in the research department of Deutsche Bank, Deutsche Bank Research. In the summer of 1998 the introduction of the euro was imminent and Asia found itself in a state of economic emergency. My main job was to write a report for corporate clients on the impact of the euro on the Asian market. I also attended a large number of lectures and events across all areas of the bank.
The internship influenced my career path in ways that I could not have foreseen at the time. Today I hold the Chair of Political Economy at the University of Virginia and my main research area is international economic policy. My internship remains the only job-related experience within the private sector.
An experience during my internship had a direct impact on my teaching: I took part in an event organized by the “Lehr-Bundesbank” within Deutsche Bank Research. This was a permanent body that met regularly to anticipate predictions about upcoming meetings of the real Bundesbank. Years later, I took up this method for teaching with my undergraduate students. The students simulate international business negotiations, with each person assuming a specific role for which they must derive their motivation from general principles. The students think about a possible outcome of the negotiation and then practice specific case studies in direct analogy to the simulation. Later, during a conference in 2011 that was funded by the German Marshall Fund, I met my former collaborator, Steffen Kern. Mr. Kern, who remembered our time together, is currently Chief Economist of the European Securities and Markets Authority. He took this opportunity to give me some excellent advice for my current research.
My internship forms the foundation for my ongoing relationship with Germany. Immediately after graduating from Stanford University, I returned to Germany for a year on a Bundestag scholarship. I took courses at the Humboldt University in Berlin and at the same time did a four-month internship with a member of the Bundestag.
I always like to come back to Berlin - as a tourist in 2007, but also in an academic context to conferences: in 2001 for a joint event by the Free University of Berlin and the German Marshall Fund and in 2014 I was a guest at the Hertie School of Governance im As part of a cooperation with the Federal Ministry of Finance.On these follow-up visits to Berlin, I am always amazed at the constant changes in the city. Although I am still very familiar with the German language, it often happens to me that in a conversation - contrary to my experience in 1998 - nowadays people immediately switch to English as soon as you hear my accent.
Sonal Pandya, Ph.D., Stanford in Berlin student in spring 1998
Intern at Deutsche Bank Research, Frankfurt a. M., in the summer of 1998
Associate Professor, Department of Politics, University of Virginia
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